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[Page 2 of 2] The "Thanks, I'll Pass" OptionOn the table for some women is also an option that may or may not disappoint you: "I'm just going to keep my own name." Perhaps you've got a long Greek name that's impossible to pronounce and even harder to spell over the phone. Maybe you've married a very independently-minded woman who is proud of her past accomplishments, and isn't terribly interested in having that disappear in Mihalopolous-ville. Whatever the reason, this is likely going to be a serious conversation. If she decides not to take your name, this could cause confusion, especially if you decide to have children. If your name is Brown and hers is Gates even after your wedding, people may assume that you either never married or are divorced. Also, when people do make the assumption she is Mrs. Brown - since you're Mr. Brown - your wife will have to decide whether it's worth correcting over time. If this is something she feels strongly about, however, you should understand that a name is not something you can force on her. (At least not since the 70s, and even then, only in some states.) You certainly have a right to voice your opinion about the name change issue, but also to listen well. This is a decision you and your wife can hopefully arrive at together and without too much tension. She did vow to spend the rest of her life with you after all. What's in a name? [Page 2 of 2]
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AJ
ok every one the last name does not matter the fact is ur taking the biggest step of ur life so just enjoy it
Amanda
As a scholar, I sometimes come across difficult naming situations. One such situation arose out of an older scholar changing her last name via marriage. Rosemary X became Rosemary Y and, with no hyphenation, I was at a loss to determine Rosemary's true name. Eventually, I ended up contacting her directly to confirm my suspicious that Y used to be X, but I could very well have been way off target and soliciting a completely unrelated Rosemary.
As for myself, I married before pursuing my doctorate so that all of my important work was published under my married name.
And, @ Kyle F: what a selfish, homophobic, anti-feminist thing to say. Everyone has a family name to preserve, not just men. Every situation is unique and some men may prefer the option of taking their wives' surnames (or even their husbands'!). Please think before you make a bigoted comment.
Brandon
As a tenure-track professor, it's very important that my fiancee keep her last name, so all of the research she has done and articles she has published before we are married will continue to be associated with her career as she moves forward. It is an example of the name indeed carrying qualifications, abilities and achievement. I'm very proud of her, and am looking forward to taking and sharing her name.
Dean
If my fiance either a) wouldn't take my surname, b) wanted a hyphenated surname, or c) wanted me to change my surname to hers, I would just call the wedding off and not marry her.
Name Keeper (and changer)
First, I'd like to let all the men know that there aren't actually harpies who come to chop out certain parts of your anatomy if you decide to change your name to your wife's. I was really encouraged that the conversation here was started by guys who are changing their name; you are awesome. I was also disheartened and a little shocked at many of the fears and anxieties that people shared about this topic. It just goes to show you that sexism is not irrelevant in any marriage; even if you do your best, those are still the external pressures you face and they still affect your marriage in certain places. The name change issue is one of those places, and the fact that some of the men on this board are so strongly against changing their names highlights my point.
After agonizing over it, I decided to make my husband's last name my middle name, and keep my last name (yet another option, but requires a separate court order in some states). He refused to take my last name as his middle name, which I accepted - this is because of sexism, but not necessarily because my husband is sexist.
I also wanted to say to groomgroove that I think it is really great that there is a venue for this discussion. However, I am offended by the implication that the wife's choice of name would be the decision of the couple. I offered my opinion about the name I would have preffered my husband to choose, but the choice was ultimately his, just as my choice was mine. Keeping an open dialogue is certainly important in the relationshp, but, while men are allowed to have an opinion, their wife's name is NOT their choice. The person who has to live with this name is the only person who can make the choice, both legally and morally.
Bee
I'm a teacher, and at work I'm going to keep using my maiden name, but I'm legally changing my name to my husbands name, and will use that in all other aspects of my life. It may be a bit superficial, but being a middle school teacher with the last name Hegg (so very similar to hag) would make for unfortunate comparisons.
Mandy
I love tradition so I would dnever consider taking my last name. And as for a high power job, a name doesn't carry your qualifications, abilities and achievement. If you took your husbands last name, all those things would still go with you.
It's just that everyone else would learn to call you by a different last name.
Audrey
I come from a fairly prominent large family. I quite proud of being introduced to someone and them asking me "so, are you ____'s daughter? Or neice?" My name is my identity, regardless of whether or not I have a strong career. My partner and I discussed my name change, us both hyphenating and decided that for all the trouble of changing names that we would stay as we are and our children would have hyphenated last names since our names sound great together.
My mom feels one of her biggest regrets in married life was not keeping her own name and pushing for my brother and I to have her last name as well. She didn't hyphenate, she added my dad's last name. 18 years later, when they split, she dropped his name. No one was confused by my brother and I having a different name. Simply one correction of "No, not Mrs. ____, my mom is Ms. ___ or simply _____ (her first name).
Which brings up the whole frustration of being "Mrs." No, thank you. I'll be quite simply, Ms. ___ for life.
Jane
I'm proud to say that my husband is secure enough in his identity and in our relationship to never have considered asking a woman to change her name to his, and to always have assumed that any woman he married would want to keep her name. He is also very clear that we are a family and he certainly does not think I am an 'ugly person' as Lisa below so kindly stated. Oh, and I didn't have a 'high-power' job at all. I was unemployed when we got together, in fact, and I'm only just going through grad school now. I don't need an excuse to keep my name. I have the right to keep that link to my identity (or, just to not have to stand in all those lines and do all that messing around) just as much as he does, and just as much as all the men who state they would NEVER - gasp! - take their wife's name.
We have been married almost 6 years, and are very happy and optimistic about our future together.
Some people made silly comments, but they were dealt with appropriately - either it was ignored or a polite request was made to stop (or, in one case, a complaint was made to the person's manager.) The reaction of, say, my father-in-law, is completely irrelevant, as it's as little of his business as, say, his choice of car is my business. Some people did make fools of themselves by purposely or 'accidentally' calling me the wrong name, and others genuinely slipped up, and all were pleasantly informed of my actual name. Simple.
Names have nothing whatsoever to do with what makes a family. Aren't you your maternal grandmother's grandson? You probably have a different name to her. Many cultures have done without last names, or without the custom of women changing, and functioned just fine.
Kristina
Lisa, I honestly haven't read a more vomitous blog comment than your reply. Why not do what you want to do without worrying about what other people are going to think? Worrying about whether other people will think you're a "wet mop" sounds a lot more wimpy than doing what you want. As for the confident and womanly skirt part - that's just frightening.
Jill
My future husband is taking my last name because his last name is Frankenstein. He was made fun of all his life and now is the perfect opportunity to change his name. He is totally fine with it:)
Myra
I Really Dont see a problem with my husband taking my last name.
Sometimes you have to make a few changes in the relation ship, and if he doesn't mine why should others? Besides you dont have to go around explaining to everyone what happens between you and your spouse.
Lisa
Please do not take the woman's last name! That's just...not right. In my family, I'm the last with our family name, so I am choosing to hyphenate. But, my fiancee's cousin chose to keep hers due to her so-called high power job, and it just makes her look like an ugly person, and her husband look like a wet mop. Be the man in our lives, we're YOUR wife, you aren't ours. Treat us like ladies and wear the pants, but allow us to wear a very womanly & confident skirt beside you.
John
A guy take the girls name? Seriously? That guy'll be the laughing stock of poker night!
Deez
I'm not Mister old fashioned, but there's nothing wrong with some traditions. If you want to take on your wife's name or pick some new name just to buck at conformity, so be it. But it seems lame to me, and a knee-jerk reaction to an alleged sexism that isn't necessarily there in every case. A woman strength and independence comes by way of her actions and character, not by refusing her husband's name.
Shannon
My fiancé and I have chosen a new name that is significant and unique to both of us. It was an amusing and interesting experience trying to choose one that we both liked.
Louie
My fiancé is discarding her middle name and going first name, maiden name, my last name. It is another option. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
Dash
When I got married, I decided to hyphenate our names, since I come from a family of all girls and the name would then end. My husband surprised everyone and hyphenated as well. We now share a name unique to us, and so does our daughter!
vince
the way me and my fiancee are doing it, we are sharing names, so we are becoming gelinas-ramsay
Rodney
My fiancee' Chante' has a cool last name and it fits her wll, but She is going to be Mrs. Davis now, no way I will ever change my last name to hers!!
Dawn
Definitely disappointed by the fact that you didn't include taking the wife's name. My fiance was all for taking mine (I have 2 sisters and my father only had sisters so there's nobody to pass the name on) but then his father wouldn't let us. It's a viable option.
Kyle F.
NEVER ever take the womans name on. That is a horrible idea. I am the last male in my family to pass the name on, my wife-to-be has a brother to pass theirs on. If you take on the womans name you mine as well get a sex change and be lesbian with her.
mr soon to be wed
You know, a name change for men isn't a big deal , and if the stigma attached is ever going to be removed, more guys need to think about it.
Also, there is the concern of "passing on the family name." Well, how do you think the father of the bride feels?
FYI,Don Cherry's son in law did it.
j24
What about a new name altogether?
GroomGroove.com
Hey guys - Thanks for the comments. We will explore taking the wife's name and revisit the article.
Jon
I know more than one man who has taken his wife's last name... so don't say that "no guy is going to do it." It's not the norm, but it's certainly done.
For "Guy" - who is going to take their wife's name? I mean, really. Yeah, i'm sure it's a nice jesture and even if you have a long name, no guy is going to do it.
Guy
You left out the option of taking your wife's last name!
Nicholas S.
Most definitely a very important step.
Evan A.
I'm taking my wife's last name. We both like it, plus, her last name has more "clout".
Groom
K - that's gotta be a first. But if his name is hard to spell or weird, fine, but his friends are going to make fun of him!
Dean H.
The Hyphenated option sounds just like my fiancee!
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