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How much should a groom spend on an engagement ring?
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So just how much is two months' salary? While there is no real answer, we believe two months' salary refers to your gross salary, and not your net salary. (ie. the amount of money you make before taxes and deductions).
If you earn... $30,000: tradition states you're on the hook for a $5,000 diamond engagement ring. $50,000: rampant advertising suggests you buy a $8,333 rock. $80,000: say goodbye to $14,167 on a that piece of ice. $100,000: pray that for $16,667 she sticks around for a long time to come. And... If you earn $100 billion, or the approximate Gross Domestic Product of New Zealand, you're looking at dropping $16 billion. On the bright side, however, you should be able to get a good quality cut, carat, color, clarity and cardiac arrest at that price. Upgrade There is no shame in purchasing an engagement ring of a certain level of cut, carat, color and clarity (and corresponding price point) but then later upgrading to a better quality diamond on your first, fifth or tenth anniversary, for example. Ultimately, you may never upgrade if your wife is satisfied with what you were able to purchase at the time you were married. Does it have to be a diamond ring? According to DeBeers, 83% of brides in the United States and Canada receive diamond engagement rings. Grooms should know, however, that this phenomena is truly a North American one. In many European countries, the concept of a diamond engagement ring is utterly foreign. Grooms should also note that not all women prefer diamonds. It will take a bit of research and observation to determine if your future bride is one of them, but this knowledge can allow you to purchase a larger stone if it is something other than a diamond, or allow you to simply save the money for a down payment on a house or car if size is not as critical to her. Is two months' salary reasonable? GroomGroove.com believes that the best way to figure out what to spend is by careful analysis of your budget. A groom may not be able to purchase the perfect engagement ring outright, and therefore many diamond resellers have payment plans that can last several months. Accordingly, you may wish to inquire with your local diamond shop or through an online retailer such as BlueNile.com. Ultimately, in a society where a certain amount of conformity plays a role, grooms may want to have a frank discussion with their future wives about what they can reasonably spend on an engagement ring. Two months' salary can serve as a general guideline, but GroomGroove.com believes that the 21st century groom shouldn't buckle under the pressure, especially given competition in the industry from online sites. Spend only what you can afford, and don't be afraid to consult your girlfriend. After all, in the end, her happiness and love for you are of the utmost importance, and these things you simply can't quantify. [Page 2 of 2]
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Kalie
Okay, so we struck a nerve about how much you should spend on a ring. I can only speak for myself...since I was little I dreamt about my wedding day. The perfect man, the perfect dress, the perfect cake, the perfect ceremony and yes, the perfect ring. This does not mean you need to spend a load of money, but it does complete the "dream come true." Why should you be so offended CJB because as a woman maybe she wants just one thing that she can look at every day and gasp at the beauty of it. You are exactly the type of man I'm glad I didn't end up with...cheap. Just remember that $20.00 band when you want to upgrade your flat screen tv.
Jenny
P.S. Don't recycle a diamond either. Getting it cheap at your local flea market and then turning around and having it placed into a semi mount is not cool. Call it superstition but there's a reason that person no longer is wearing it so why do you want us to? Besides, that's being cheap and someday she'll run across the papers and you will embarrass yourself. Unless it's an heirloom that she already approves of, don't go there.
Jenny
Trust me...I'd rather spend my two months salary and buy the ring of my dreams instead of having to settle for the wrong ring. My ring cost $9,000.00 I can't stand it, I don't wear it 90% of the time. I guess if you are going to spend the money, take her to pick it out. You will be surprised at what she chooses because the ring I had hoped to have was only $3,500.00. Now we are looking at spending even more money once we marry to have it set in a guard/wrap or to have it reset. Very bad investment. You may think I'm selfish but if you have dreamed of owning a Corvette since you were a child and I surprised you with a Brand New Mustang...oops, now you're obligated to drive it and love it cuz It will totally hurt my feelings otherwise. (Not to mention I'll think you are a selfish brat.) Then I'll say things like, "doesn't it matter that I liked it or that I picked it out or that you didn't have a nice car in the first place and now you do???" Hmmm...starting to sound familiar? Guys, just take her and save some money. Tell her to pick out three and you decide later when she's not around...just make sure she doesn't see the price. My guy bragged about how much mine was and even showed me the appraisal papers but I just wanted to say to him "You really shouldn't have."
Heirloom
I have been married for just under two years and up until a month ago when my husband and I bought a home, my engagement ring and wedding band were the most expensive items we both owned. I love my engagement ring, not because of how much it cost, but because I know that my husband worked very very hard to save up enough money to give it me. When we found it I fell in love with it immediately, but we realized it was just too expensive. I walked away without a second thought, knowing that we could not aford it. When he proposed 6 mos later he was so proud to be able to put that ring on my finger. I would have been proud to wear any ring that he could afford, but the fact that he sacrificed and worked so hard to give me the ring he knew I loved is what makes it so much more special. I will proudly wear these rings all my life and they will passed on to my children. Women are not as shallow as you think. We do like a pretty ring, but no matter how big or small the ring ends up being we are not ignorant to the personal sacrifices you made to give it to us. This sign of your commitment is what we are looking for. Don't be cheap just because all you see is a material object. It is truly not just about a big shiny rock.
buymearingbiotch
2 months salary..is that gross or net? Gross would be $16K and net would be $11K..either way that is insane. I will consider spending between $5-7K and thats it.
I figure if you are going to do it go middle of the road...not too cheap and not insanely expensive but then again its all relative.
A woman's perspective
As a bride-to be, I am a bit offended that the article (and many of those who left comments) assume all women care how much you spend on the ring. Personally, I did not want a ring at all but my mother gave me the diamond my late father had given her. My fiance spent all of $600 to have it re-set. And that included the jeweler setting my father's birth stone in the old ring in memory of him. Two months salary? No. The best ring I could ever have wanted? Yes. The sentimental value is what counts for me and I am sure many other women feel the same way.
I'm ready, yet not...
Sooo I'm ready to start looking at rings...I know she is the one. But I have credit card debt that I NEED to pay down and I know I want to go back to school to get my Master's. We've already talked about moving in together within a year. So do I save the money for the 2 month's salary or do I pay down the debt which will at least take another year? And what about the honeymoon? That's where I really want to spend a large amount of money for a great getaway vacation...what do I do?
Equal Rights
Ladies, WHERE IS *YOUR* SIGN OF LOYALTY AND COMMITMENT TO HIM? Aren't we living in 2009? Aren't men and women supposed to be equals?
Why aren't you spending two month's of YOUR salary (if you even work) on a ring or other gift for HIM?
Oh, that's right....you're only "equals" when it's convenient....lol.
CJB
I am not going to spend $8,500 on a ring. No way. No how. That's a ridiculous proposition, pun intended. I love my woman and I will spend every day for the rest of my life making her happy. I could buy her a $20 silver ring to propose with, It doesn't matter.
Just A Girl...and so many other women on here saying "Spend, Spend, Spend!" You're exactly the type of women I am glad I am NOT marrying!
A ring is a symbol. The DIAMOND company wants you to spend a lot of money on a DIAMOND ring. It's unbelievable how many of you pathetic sheep follow these marketing campaigns as if they were gospel.
Jackson
Yes, lets face it, a car is a status symbol. You can get a practical, reliable car for under 10k. If a guy has a reliable, practical, inexpensive car, than his bride too be shouldn't be upset with an inexpensive, practical ring. However, if the guy thinks an inexpensive, practical car is not good enough for him... then of course he should not get the love of his life a practical ring. It tells the girl that he doesn't value her as much as himself, and that he doesn't value the symbol of his love and commitment as much as his status. That's not a good way to start out a marriage.
Melissa
I agree with girl and just a girl. It's sad to see a man driving a nice car and his girl wearing a dinky ring. It just goes to show what he values more... himself and his ride, or his commitment and bride.
Darryl
I am 51 and this is all stressing me out...I make just over 172,000 now that would mean...a 29,000 ring !!! Forget affordability...just practicality. I told her the ring would cost over 20M and her remarks were.."are you outta your F%$#in mind"... Now the background is we were both married before..neither received or gave a ring the first time. Maybe I want to do it right this time..but I admit. Her response is valid !
angelina
the bigger the better....its also for your own face for good's sake, dont be so sharby....most of the guys are just worried about this ring will not be able to cut into half when they divorce
inlove
Personally I think to each its own. According to this 2 month salary thing my fiance should have spent 75,000 but he only spent 35,000. So it really depends and I loooooove my ring!
Anonymous
We got engaged on Valentine's Day 2008, the biggest day of the year for engagements I guess. I got a 3 carat yellow zircon ( which is a real genuine stone, not a CZ ) that is set in white and yellow gold and has small diamonds down either side of the band. I absolutely love it! It sparkles just like a diamond and it didn't cost us a down payment on a house to afford it. Everyone thinks it's a diamond but if they ask I proudly tell them it's a zircon. It's beautiful!
his salary or mine?
Interesting posts-- I think the two months things is just a guideline, as other have said, think about her and what kind of ring would she most love-- since she will have to wear it for the rest of her life. I'm not big on jewelry and would say budget-conscious BUT... I do want to receive a beautiful ring. I make a little over 6k a month, my guy makes close to double what I make-- it would be crazy for him to spend that kind of money on a ring-- but I will wonder if it's something dinky
Bargain Hunter
You may also want to consider going to a resale or pawn shop. You will not pay nearly the amount you would in a retail store in the mall. I got a 1/2 carat solitare in platinum for only $500. The 1/2 carat heart shaped I had picked out in the mall was $1500 on sale.
2FOR1
I spent 1250.00 on my wife and was able to get a engagement ring and wedding band set. When together it is a very unique and beautiful ring. I think people are too quick to think that the price they see is the price you pay. This is not so for a diamond. try and haggle - you might just be supprised. P.S. the original cost of my ring set was 2250.00
Bride to Be
It's things like this that make me go: I'm glad my fiance chose to give me a sapphire than a diamond (European custom, supposedly.). :)
I'm a college student, my fiance is just starting out in his career. Who can afford that kind of money these days in the times we're in? There's far more important things to spend 2 months income on than a rock that sits on a finger and does nothing... like maybe save up for a downpayment on a house?
Paul D
One of the comments were that you are taking the best years of woman's life....so two months of salary for 4 years(avg. lifespan of a marriage nowadays).... a guy would get laid for 250 times for that period(yeah, sex is rarety once you get married).....at $5k per month(avg. salary) that ends up being $40 per lay.... still a pretty good deal.. one just ends up paying upfront
Jmd
At the beginning I never got a chance to give my wife an engagment ring due to our limited income . But even so we have been married for 11 years now. On our 10 year anniversary I finally gave her the engagment ring , the tears on my wife eyes said it all. Her ring cost me $549.00, and before anyone starts thinking what a cheap bastard I am my wife and I handle our mony very well, we own our company and have been debt free (except for our house)2 years. And she is my everything.(please excuse my grammer , inlish is not my first language)
Synic
Life is not about things bought, but the life you lived. No one will give a shit when you die about how big the ring you got when you got married was. Your marriage may not even last. Marriage is just a piece of paper and a bunch of false promises that will hardly ever hold up. Who cares about any of this mess, just love the best moments you have with the best person you have.
Good Woman
The sad truth is that if your lady TRUELY loves you the ring won't matter. It's the fact of being married and the sacred bond that is promised through that cerimony that matters the most. Some girls are happy with a ring from a cracker jack box, all the others are looking for a trophy to show off to their friends and brag about how much more their man loves tham then the man of one their friends. It's all just a show. Don't worry about how much the ring costs. Get what you can afford. If your lady really loves you, she'll love the ring because it is FROM you!!!
Love me like a lady
Buying the ring is not only about the money it costs, or even about the love you share. Getting married is a lifetime commitment, the ring is a symbol not only of your love, but also of your commitment and willingness to sacrifice. Who just jumps up and can spend 2 months of salary on a ring? Take the time, make the sacrifice and SAVE up the money. Make her feel special and important to you. Knowing your partner is very important but be willing to make the sacrifice, take the time to save up as a symbol of your love and commitment.
Anonomous
I don't know what the answer to this question is. I don't know the proper amount or percentage. What I do know is that soon after engagement typically comes (1) a wedding, (2) a honeymoon, and (3) a home (downpayment + mortgage). People typically get married in their 20s and typically making a 5-figure income at this point in their lives. So how can a 5-figure income afford an awesome ring, an extravegant wedding, exotic honeymoon, and a comfortable home all within about a one year time frame. I feel screwed. Unless you have wealthy parents who can help front the bill this just doesn't seem realistic for us 20-somethings to do. Then again, perhaps thats why so many of my generation is extremely debt-riddin.
Best Answer Ever
I am a surgeon going through a divorce. I cannot afford two months salary on my girlfriend. And I know some of you can't either. I asked a few people this question until my friend Betsy came up with the perfect answer. This answer doesn't matter whether you're a rich CEO or a hamburger flipper in McDonald's.
Betsy says, "...that because a woman is willing to give up her "beautiful" years as well as her child-bearing years for you the ring better be nice. As for how much it should cost. Well, price doesn't matter--AS LONG AS IT HURTS YOU FINANCIALLY!"
That's it! Perfect answer. I just bought a ring that will end up costing me about $6500. How could I possibly spend $32,000 on a ring. That is crazy. Especially when I am forced to give my ex wife $4200 every two weeks in alimony and child support.
DBF
bad bitch
For all that think the price mattes its just a engagement ring its not your wedding ring. I think price do not matter at all its the love and the thought that count if spent he spent 300 to 1000 on an engagement ring he brought it and that what matter all lady , girls or women need to stop thinking about the price, size and the dam diamond.
True Love
I'm sorry, but anyone who expects their partner to spend two months salary on an engagement ring needs to examine their moral values and priorities. You're basically putting a price tag on love, your relationship, and your lives. I can guarantee you that there is no correlation between the compatibility/success of a relationship and the money the groom spends on a ring.
The ring should look nice and display to everyone that the person is taken. A woman who really loves a man (like my wife) appreciates those things above a standard. Love is about trust, communication, dedication, and appreciation through actions. A man should definitely spend money on his wife to be, but he shouldn't put his new family in debt or irresponsibly consume because of it.
The fact that the two months salary requirement stems from a diamond company and we follow it really says something about superficially consumer driven we are. When we start spending (or saving) on more things that matter, we can finally realize what's important. I've known a lot of women who have expensive engagement rings (not to mention handbags, shoes, etc.), and it's funny how their happiness from those things doesn't last long. It's also funny how a great compatible partner brings you true eternal happiness, and they won't put a price tag on how much you care for each other.
Just a girl
boys, boys. I think some of you have this all wrong. You obviously don't understand the importance of a ring to a woman. This is the one thing that we have been looking forward to since we were teens laying around and daydreaming with our friends. I am not a superficial person, but come on...no matter what a girl says unless she never wears jewelery, she wants a decent ring. One of you used the phrase "waste 2 months salary"??? Seriously you should not be getting married if buying the woman you love a ring is "a waste of money". You don't need to go crazy, but don't be cheap either. If you buy a ring and say you will upgrade...that is crap also(if you make a decent income)! What, you don't love her enough now to buy something decent,but if it lasts then you will in the future? You want to be proud and feel good about what you give and most importantly want to make her happy. This is one ring for the rest of your lives. Pick up some shifts at work, stop buying extras for yourself, save...and do what is right!
J-Money
The article does suggest that it's ok to go under the 2 month rule if you are on a really tight budget... but what about the opposite end of the spectrum? What if you make $800,000/year... are you really supposed to shell out $67,000 for a ring? It just seems a bit absurd to spend that much on a freaking ring, and it doesn't seem safe to be wearing something that expensive on your finger all the time. I would be worried about my wife getting a finger chopped off! What would be an appropriate amount to spend if you make 300k? 500k? 800k? 1 Million?
Engaged chick
Fortunately (hopefully) you're partner won't be marrying you for your money, and will recognise that your thoughts and feeling are more inmportant than the number on the receipt for the ring!
I've never been a fan of diamonds (I mean really, they are a bit bland) but my lovely fiance bought me an antique diamond ring: the thing about it that we fell in love with was the setting, not the stone! We were also happy it wasn't too big, so it won't constantly get snagged, and it didn't cost us 2 months salary we need to pay for the wedding and a house down-payment!
Know yourself, know your partner: what suits you both best may be completely different from these advertising campaigns/"traditions"
John
Oh boy! I'm about to try looking for one also. May God have mercy on me too! Also for the poor girl I love. May she be blessed for tolerating me!
John
Oh boy! I'm about to try looking for one also. May God have mercy on me too! Also for the poor girl I love. May she be blessed for tolerating me!
Anon
Haha, I'm a student, so my 2 months of salary is like -$1000 ( if you count tuition as salary). How do they like their marketing campaign now.
Rantipole
Yes, the two month thing is suggested primarily by... DeBeers! Who want to sell diamonds! A bit of a conflict of interest there. Of course, you won't find many brides disagreeing with their suggestion. ;-) Still, while technically I suppose I could have afforded two months, I found an amazing ring for around 1 month's salary... it just took a LOT of footwork! That is what is missing from this article: you don't necessarily want to walk into one jewelry store and walk out with a ring. Go to a bunch and check out all the options.
Pat
From the time you give your Wife/Husband "to be" an engagement ring, how long can/should engagement be before marriage?
Kevin
Everyone's situation is different, and the "two months salary" marketing slogan should be viewed as a suggestion. Additionally, I would never consider buying a mined diamond. Man-made diamonds (gemesis, apollo, etc..) are higher quality, and much more unique (available in yellow, pink, blue). If a clear, high quality stone is your preference, moissanite is a great way to go. It's more durable than diamond and more brilliant (fire). Think outside the box! Almost every couple I know has the same generic 1 to 2 carat diamond. There are many more creative options available.
ransdell
maybe i can just fly by with a cubic zirconia lol
Eligius
You should choose the very best engagement ring that will fit your girl's style and your budget. It's important to make knowledgeable decisions about diamond purchasing based on the "4 Cs" (color, clarity, cut and carat weight). However, I don't think guys should get caught up in this. Remember why you're buying the ring in the first place--romance! Choose a ring you know your girl will love and then choose a diamond that fits your budget. You can always upgrade later!
Ryan
2 Months Salary is a little high don't you think. I mean especially if you and your new lady are planning on getting a house and having a nice wedding. I mean down payment on a house is 10 000 minimum and even a small wedding as a moderate location will cost upwards of 10 grand. so all ready you're into this 20 000 and they want you to spend (in my case) 15-20 thousand on a ring. that's a little much.
truth
It's a shiny rock that a bunch of old white guys have created artificial scarcity and demand for. plus, you can think about all the severed arms that you have just put 2 month's salary into.
Stupid
Adam
The 2 months salary is smart. It was created before the idea of credit cards. It may take a year or longer to save that kind of dough. Not only does it give you more time so you dont make a rash decision with the wrong person but also gives you time to learn about jewerly. Guys if I go out and buy a new truck I dont just take the first one with a decent price. Research jewerly, you are a guy and have no idea what your doing. A jeweler is like a car salesman, dont take his word for it
soon to be mrs.
diamonds are expensive guys......i would not go as to say spend ALL your money on your soon to be wife....but just know that it will be something that she will wear (potentially) all your lives together....
and as a girl that loves jewelry its not like you have to buy her a 4000 dollar ring every year.....its once!!! one time... you guys spend that on a flat screen for your sports room and dont even blink an eye!.......and i dont think that it shows how much you love the person.....but it could make your girl really really really happy.....so go on make her friends jealous... put a little more thought into the ring....dont just get the whatever ring.....get the ring that will make her scream!!!!.....there is a big difference.
girl
So you know...She may say it's "perfect" or "better than putting a strain on our relationship", but let's face it guys: THE BIGGER THE BETTER. No woman would turn down a larger, better quality ring, if given a choice. The fact is that we don't have that choice. It's not like we can say "that's kind of a dinky ring" as you are on one knee and profess your undying love and desire to spend eternity together. So do your ladies a favor and try to think of it as a good kick start to the rest of your life. Remember, you spend more on the multiple cars you'll own in a lifetime...let's hope you'd be willing to spend as much on the ONE woman you'd like to spend the rest of your life with. Learn to appreciate her and not think of the one time price of a ring as a burden. In the end...we all know that she'll pick up after you and feed you and your dumb friends in amounts that far surpass two months salary.
pat
Seriously....2 months salary is what the diamond companys want you to give them....Think about it before you jump of that cliff like a lemming. Putting a financial strain on your relationship over a ring is not worth it. Love, trust, and a good relationship is much more than a piece of jewelery. If you think that a higher price ring says that you are more committed and more in love....better get yourself a good divorce lawyer
Frank
I was also concern that a two month salary was too much, specially if you take into consideration that the wedding itself could go pricy very fast, sometime by just changing a few things here and there. Flowers, for example its something I am willing to sacrifice if I could use it in something that will last longer, such as the diamond. In all reality the whole thing its about the person who is going to hopefully share the rest of her life with you. You should buy what you can affort, it your marriage is meant to last. You can always upgrade her ring setting, diamond, etc.
Patrick
Think about your future wife. Does she wear jewelry often? Does she want a huge rock? Forget your salary for a minute and think about her. My soon to be wife never wore a ring until now and doesn't wear much jewelry to begin with. According to the 2 months salary rule I was supposed to spend $15,000 on a ring, which seemed insane to me. I was able to buy her a ring that she loves, with near flawless ratings in Cut, Color, and Clarity while sacrificing Carat for under $4,000. It's not the biggest, but it's perfect for her. Think about her long and hard before giving up 2 months income.
Great article! May God have mercy on me as I embark on this process.
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