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should the groom ask for permission? [Page 1 of 1]

It is customary for the groom to ask the father-of-the-bride for his daughter's hand in marriage. Now, we said it's customary, but it's also a bit antiquated, formal and possibly misogynistic. It does make you appear to be more of a gentleman, albeit a gentleman from around 1952.  

Is your bride a piece of property?

Part of the history of asking for your daughter's "hand in marriage" is that, according to Biblical scripture, there used to be a price paid for the daughter of a gentleman. The idea was that the woman would no longer be a working member of the father's family. (!) The price was measured in other property, paid to the father. In some places, the tradition still exists, particularly in parts of Africa where not only is a "bride price" paid (not to be confused with a dower), but the woman may be subjected to the highly nefarious practice of female genital mutilation. So, yeah, even today this practice is no laughing matter.

Back in the 21st century, it's your call as to whether you want to do this at all. You may consider asking your girlfriend's father for his blessing, rather than permission. But the guys at GroomGroove.com have got a better idea. The smart groom should consider having this conversation with his girlfriend's parents (both father and mother) rather than following last century's rules. That's an appropriate approach, and going to win you some serious bonus points. In fact, both you and your girlfriend, together, could approach both sets of parents.

Here's how to do it:

  • Call your bride's parents in advance, to tell them you'd like to meet, privately
  • Meet with both her mom and dad
  • Meet in person, if possible
  • Tell them you love their daughter and you'll treat her with the respect that she deserves
  • Bloody-well believe what you just said
  • Ask that they bless your union

Of course, they're going to know that this is coming, but that's all part of the tension building, right?

A recent groom in an interview with GroomGroove.com, Jared Price of New York stated, "It actually turned out to be more awkward than I thought it would be." Jared, a blue-blooded American guy was asking his Italian father-in-law to be. "Being from Italy," Price says, "they're a bit more traditional and so I thought it would be a good idea. They don't hide their emotions, so when I asked and her father blankly stared and said, 'Well, you'll have to ask her...' there was either something lost in translation or the idea that he was somewhat cool to the idea. I guess my advice is be prepared for that." (Gulp.)

Regardless of whether you follow tradition to a T, take up our idea, or forgo the concept completely, you're ahead of the game by thinking of whether to ask your pop-in-law for your girlfriend's hand in marriage.

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SJA
Thu, Nov.12th 2009
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My girlfriend dad passed away about 6 years ago. Her mom is still alive and her older brother. niether one of us has ever been married before. We are in are late 30's.. should i still ask for here moms blessing? should i include her brother also? I'm a tradiational guy...
Dave
Thu, Oct.29th 2009
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I just did he asking yesterday... my problem was that her parents have remarried and her biological father is on the other side of the globe. Of course i rang her biological father, had a great chat with him, at the end of the conversation i told him the love and respect i have for his daughter and asked for his blessing, he was over the moon and could not stop saying how much he apprecieated me asking. Her step father, who she is close to and lives near us, i just rang up and asked if i could speak to him about somthing, i went around to his office and said similar to him also. It was the hardest thing i have ever had to do in my life!!! but god it feels good to know that you have treated her family with respect and trust. My advice is, if the father is approachalbe and you know him well, ask just him, if you don't know him well enough or you don't get along, still have the respect to ask and get her mother involved as well... Good luck!!!
Jay
Tue, Oct.27th 2009
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So i have an issue. I want to ask both of my girlfriend's parents for their blessing. She is very close to both of them but they are divorced and not on good terms so bringing them together is out of the question. I really would like to ask her father first because i think man to man, it's the best thing to do. I have not spent a great amount of time with him but I believe he respects me and i respect him. I have spent a little more time with her mother and i am pretty sure she would be happy. The question is, how should I approach her father? I want to do this in person, but not with my girlfriend around. The problem with her mother is that she would probably be so excited that I'm afraid she would accidently spill the beans. Sorry I am rambling on and on but I am so nervous and anxious about this I just want to do it right. Thanks.
chantel
Wed, Oct.14th 2009
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if the parents of your bride to be died then the next thing is to ask her siblings for her hand in marriage.
Mike
Wed, Sep.2nd 2009
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My girl is close to her parents. They talk everyday on the phone at least once. I am afraid that her Mom, and sister, will not be able to keep it a secret long enough for me to ask. It will be splattered all over facebook! I know my girl definitely wants me to ask her fathers blessing, but I am torn on waiting till after I propose, or maybe the moment before. But what if they dont answer or she catches me on the phone, or they need some time to think about it etc?? Why is "the talk" nerve racking? Putting my self in the fathers shoes....I wouldnt care how great the guy is marrying my daughter, I would have to entertain myself and make him sweat a bit!
frank
Wed, Jul.29th 2009
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My girlfriends parents are in mexico for the whole summer and i originally was going to ask her parents when they got back but.. my girlfriend surprised me with a trip at the end of summer and I want to make it special for us and ask her then. What would be the best way to ask her parents by webcam? or should i just wait till they get back? I really want to do it on the trip though.thanks.
Greg
Sat, Jul.4th 2009
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My Girlfriends parents are lesbians. How do i handle this little hurdle.
scared
Mon, Jun.22nd 2009
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i want to ask my parteners over protecive parents, but there is health issues, they know that i can deal with this as im a nurse. but im worried they'll say no, any advice
mikey's wife
Thu, May.28th 2009
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Your Comments: I am married to a guy known among his friends as "Mikey." He proposed one night, without having fully prepared or planned to do it then. So he called my parents who lived 800 miles from us on the phone. My dad answered the phone, and he said,"Mr. Jones, this is Mike Smith," to which my dad answered, "Mike Smith, Mike Smith. Do I know you?" After a few agonizing moments, he realized who it was and said, "I'm glad you're not going by Mikey any more!" Anyway, that broke the ice, everyone was happy, and we just celebrated our 19th anniversary. No hard feelings for calling right afterwards to ask for the blessing.
Liz
Sun, May.17th 2009
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In response to Heather - if my parents knew I was about to be engaged before I did, I would be *furious*. Blessings can be asked for later. But then, I'm not the type to hire a wedding planner either.
ROBERT
Mon, Mar.30th 2009
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My scenario... there is no future "father-in-law," only a future "mother-in-law." I'd like to show respect and get her blessing. However, since my girlfriend & her mother are so close, I am concerned that her mothrer may not be able to keep the secret. I'm considering waiting until the day of the proposal to ask her mother, but her mother and I may not be alone long enough for me to inquire. Any thoughts or suggestions???
Craig
Fri, Mar.27th 2009
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ok i got a question. i love my girlfriend Lorna so much. and i'm here in landstuhl germany because i got hurt in iraq. well i want to ask her to marry me, but the only way i can do that is through internet phone calls. i would like to wait in person but i just can't wait anymore. is it ok to ask her dad like this??
john
Wed, Mar.18th 2009
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What if my Girlfriends parents are both Deceased. Who Do I ask?
Heather
Thu, Feb.26th 2009
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I am a wedding/ proposal planner and not once have I come across a bride who was not happy that her fiance asked her parents first. If their fiance didn't, most of my brides secretly vent how they wish their fiance would have. You cannot go wrong by asking for their blessing. It is not because your gf is a piece of property but that you are illustrating you respect for her and her family.
Rigger In Love
Wed, Feb.11th 2009
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This is for MWC... I did not know my girlfriends parents, but I knew that me being a man of chivalry and tradition, the parents blessing was a must. I told her I wanted to go to her home town to meet with her parents, with my secret intent to pose the question. They did not know me before hand, only what she had talked of me. I waited for her to go to sleep and then posed the question after knowing her rents for only 2 days! They were ecstatic and her father's response, "You did the right thing, what I'd have done, you asked me first, thank you for the respect, you have my blessing." I suggest you do it in person, it is a much more powerful approach
Prince alex
Sun, Feb.1st 2009
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Hi everyone... Let me tell you my experience. I was in love with a girl in my college.An year ago when i finished my studies i decided to marry her. First i called her dad and told him, that i love his daughter, i want to marry her.i asked him one year time for me to find a job in my field.That time he said he will wait for my call..... Now i got a good job and i called him. he said he was glad that i kept my word.now our marriage is fixd for this august 2009. my openion is, Get the blessing from elders........ then only we can have a peaceful life
Maria
Fri, Jan.23rd 2009
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I am a traditional person in a NON-TRADITIONAL lifestyle (I am a lesbian) I am the butch in the relationship (not that there always has to be a butch and femme) I am about to ask my Girlfriend in the next few months to marry me...I am also planning before asking her to talk to her parents and ask for their blessing! I believe in asking the parents for their blessing and letting them know how much their daughter is loved and cherished and will be for the rest of her life!
Grumpy Groom
Wed, Jan.21st 2009
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My fiancee didn't pressure me to ask her parents' permission first. But I did anyway, out of respect. It turns out that I didn't get a chance to ask her dad in person but I left him a voicemail. He told me that he really appreciated the courtesy. So even though we didn't speak directly, I'm still glad that I made the effort to give him a phone call.
Jason
Thu, Jan.15th 2009
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I find that the female wants to be able to suprise her mother with the new great news. Fathers can usually hold it in.
MWC
Thu, Jan.8th 2009
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Ok I have two questions/comments.... 1 - For those of you who included the mother, was she able to keep the surprise, or did she spill the beans? 2 - How to handle setting up a face to face meeting if you are not close to her parents? Or if distance is an issue, is the phone an alternative?
TO AMBER
Thu, Jan.8th 2009
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You would be offended???? Wow!! You really need to get a life, if you are offended by that...You should be proud that your boyfriend (if you even have one) faced the fire and had that very hard conversation with your parents...It's not that you are being passed around, it's simply a matter of a simple formality...do I have your blessing sir? YES YOU DO, well...let's have a wedding then! (IF SHE SAYS YES, AND IS NOT OFFENDED BY THIS)
Shakera
Mon, Jan.5th 2009
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I would be offended and would not get married without my fiance asking my parents for their blessing. My family is extremely traditional and I like it that wat
Amber
Thu, Nov.27th 2008
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I would be offended if my boyfriend asked my father or parents for permission to marry me becasue it is so antiquated. I make my own decisions and am not property being passed around. And I'm not a "princess" and think it's revolting that grown women think they should be put up on some throne and served by someone who should be their partner not their servant. Women who go into marriage with that expectation are going to be very disappointed. I see no point in going to the parents either to let them know ahead of time or getting their blessing. What if they say no? Do you still get married? Probably, so what was the point?
Chris
Mon, Nov.10th 2008
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Well I just asked my girlfriend to marry me two days ago, and yes I asked "permission" I put it in quotes due to the wording I used, blessing. And if you think your going up to a very anal retentive father, who will verbally murder you, then I suggest you ask the mom to come along as well, they typically will run interference for you without knowing it since they know his moods and tells better than you. As for the guy asking her father over the phone, that probably wasnt the best idea to begin with (asking over the phone), take a shot, calm down, everything will be fine and ask in person.
Carole
Thu, Nov.6th 2008
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As the mother of the groom, I think it's a good idea. My husband did not talk to my father about his intentions -- and my Dad's been upset about it for decades. Words? "I love your daughter very much. I want her to be my wife. The official marriage proposal has not happened yet. I just wanted you to be one of the first to know how I feel." See? You're not asking for his permission or blessing. Trust me, your joint engagement announcement will go much more happily when the parents know it's coming. Getting blindsided is not good.
rat!!!
Mon, Oct.27th 2008
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sorry i spelled my name wrong. the name is Ray. see how nervous i am about this
Rat
Mon, Oct.27th 2008
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My girlfriend is Japanese. she lives in Tokyo. I am in the military and i will be going to Japan next month to see her parents and ask for her hand in marriage. THe thing is that they dont know english so we thought it would be a good idea to wright a letter for the both of them to read i will mail the letter to her and she will translate it in japanese for me. is that a good idea? i dont see any other option. i cant learn japanese in 3 weeks. but if i had to then damnit i will!!
Mike
Sat, Sep.27th 2008
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I debated whether or not to ask my girlfriend's father. I wa s like "I don't ned his stinkin permission" Then she conveyed that she thought maybe I should ask. What it ultimately came down to in my mind was this: 1-If she wants me to and thinks it would be good for us and good in his eyes...why not? 2-If he is planning to spend a big chunk of change onm our wedding, I had better give him the heads up so he can get some finances in order. About 6 weekd before I planned to propose, I asked him to meet me for dinner and rather than asking permission, I just explained how much I loved his daughter and let him know that I intended to ask her to marry me in the near future. He loved it and was very happy that I went to the effort of that. He gave some great advice and we had a good dinner and a good talk. And when I told her about it later, she loved it. It was win win win. I highly recommend it!
Fred
Wed, Aug.13th 2008
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I really couldn't imagine not asking, in my case. I told him my plans for the coming weekend (over the phone) and it was dead silence. He's a very wealthy man (extremely) and obviously has trust issues. He said he's not surprised however is not pleased. "What?! I didn't get that." Most jaw dropping speechless uncomfortable moment of all time, considering we have had dinner together 100 times and been on vacations together. Humiliating, sad, and embarrassing. F him.
jac
Sun, Jul.27th 2008
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i am going to ask my girlfriend to marry me in april next year when we are on holiday . this gives me plenty of time so that i can have our house ready and we will be living in it . it also gives me time to save you some more money before i do ask her that i can give her the wedding see dreams of . i am half way there now with the ring but want to ask for the blessing of her mum and dad but when is the best time to ask them sooner or later to the time . have any of you got any advise thanks
Laura
Mon, Jul.21st 2008
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My boyfriend and I went to our parents together. I would not have wanted him asking my parents' permission. I was an adult; I made that decision for myself. However, I do love and respect my parents, as he does his, so we went to each set of parents and *as a couple* and told them we'd decided to get married, and hoped we had their blessing. (We were going to do it regardless, of course. We just didn't say that bit out loud...) They were all delighted, and pleased at how we'd handled it. Of course, we were also paying for our own wedding, so we didn't have to tiptoe through those particular politics. That's okay. Me, I'd prefer to be an independent adult.
Lisa
Wed, Jul.16th 2008
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Guys, As a woman, without a doubt, if you are debating whether or not to ask, please do. It shows respect not only to our family, but to us, as your brides-to-be as well. It shows that you care enough about the important people in our lives to incorporate them in this big decision. Jenna Bush, the president's daughter, her fiancee actually asked her twin sister as well. We'll find it so sweet that you're treating us like the princess you think we are.
Jason
Tue, Apr.8th 2008
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i think if you do it you will show that you respect the father, which you will need after you get married and would like to borrow his porsche or hopefully get a nice wedding present.
Patrick
Wed, Feb.6th 2008
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I called my future in-laws and met with them in private. I discussed it with both of them, which I really suggest doing, as it includes her mother in the process. Everything went just fine, and her mom even cried a little. However, I really suggest you know the answer going into this, just like knowing the answer your special girl will give too. I absolutely don't regret asking their blessing in advance.

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